Science and reason.

Science and Reason.

But I'm not an atheist.

Science and reason have led me to Deism.

Nothing in nature is left to chance.

Everything comes from the Divine.

Never find fault in things

you do not really understand.

The enemy you wish to destroy

often proves to be your truest friend.

Truth Seeker TP

http://truthseekerjournal.com/1997archive/124_1/46_shoulders_paine.shtm
It can't get better than that. Thomas is the man of reason and universal thinking. I really admire him.

Nativity in Washington For Christmas Sake

Subject: Re: Nativity in Washington

There will be no Nativity Scene in Washington this year! The Supreme Court has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene in the United States' Capital this Christmas season. This isn't for any religious reason. They simply have not been able to find Three Wise Men in the Nation's Capital... A search for a Virgin continues. There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the stable.

Maybe they need to pray they will appear.

In Reality it was discovered or it has been revealed , researched or known.......

I hate to burst everyone’s spiritual bubbles, but the Christmas season isn’t a Christian holiday. December celebrations began approximately 4000 years ago with the Persians and the Babylonians. It’s fallen through the ages to the Scandinavia, Greeks and Romans. It was with the The Roman’s celebrating their god Saturn. Their festival was called Saturnalia which began the middle of December and ended January 1st. The celebration would include masquerades in the streets, big festive meals, visiting friends, and the exchange of good-luck gifts. The Romans decked their halls with garlands of laurel and green trees lit with candles. And during this time saw the rise of Christianity.

But the Christians thought it an abomination to honor the pagan god. The early Christians wanted to keep the birthday of their Christ child a solemn and religious holiday, not one of cheer and merriment as was the pagan Saturnalia. But as Christianity spread they were alarmed by the continuing celebration of pagan customs and Saturnalia among their converts. At first the Church forbid this kind of celebration. But it was to no avail. Eventually it was decided that the celebration would be tamed and made into a celebration fit for the Christian Son of God.

That it was invented by Christians as any other special day or frame of time by anyother religion (Sorry for my repeat, I’ve had a bit of holiday cheer this evening). But for those that have added that the country was established by the founding Fathers to be a Christian Nation…that is totally incorrect. Again, we’re only looking at the cerface of grade school readers and not delving deeper into the truth of history. The majority of our brilliant Founding Fathers were Deists. Which is commonly described as “One who believes in the existence of a God, but denies revealed religion; a freethinker.
Note: A deist, as denying a revelation, is opposed to a Christian”

As stated by John Adams (a VERY respected Father) in the 1796 Treaty of Tripoly, Artical 11, “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion…” But of course, this is interpreted and re-anylized and rehashed by whom ever to fit that person’s or groups benefit. Though, some times a cigar is just a cigar.

With a simple search into the personal letters and correspondences of leaders like Washington, Franklin, Adams and many others it is abundantly clear that they wanted for religious freedom, being no religon specific.

Better off DEAD

my new analogy for

G R O W God Reality Offends the Weary.

This is how it was for me.......

When was weary I realized that the Bible did not to make me stronger...

(MAYBE MY TEMPORARY MIND,maybe )

I was I not growing I was like Jake says here.....

Jake says,

For Pete's sake Bobalou, how can you ask that with a straight face? Have you EVER met a Christian who didn't think that he was going to be better off dead?...and who didn't try to convince you to BELIEVE THE SAME THING!?

(conditional on having your "heaven train ticket" of course) It's the whole

basis of Christianity!!!!!! "We're all, by nature, real turds...who have to

concentrate on holding ourselves in check while alive..(and accepting a

human sacrifice to retroactively atone for us because we're turds by

nature/inheritance) ..but it's all going to be BEAUTIFUL if we can just hang

on till we croak!" GIMME A BREAK. Hey....I gotta give Mary credit

though....

They TRY ?????????

Bashing Jesus? rejected Jesus?

Mark & Lory I do not bash Jesus , After I got involved with he Christ- Life fellowship, I grew into a new understandings of GOD.......

I began to understand GOD in a way I never understood before

As I understand it Jesus is not and issue when it comes to GOD , he was a son, Jesus of Nazareth should mean nothing....

Jesus of Nazareth: From the Baptism in the Jordan to the Transfiguration by ... that Jesus sees God face-to-face because he himself is God --

The divine are WE the CREATION, the Bible is a written word about GOD there are many and many religions and many theories because GOD Spirit lives in those that believe, that is why the bible Is not meaningful to me, any more the GOD, word spirit LIFE of ME is ME.

So do I bash the life GOD has chosen , no, I do not reject myself, when one can love themselves it is the TRUE TEST for yourself to know of your growth in the LOVE of GOD

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